Archive page 3 questionsissues regarding smaart measurement software. The spectrum tools are not intended for room tuning, they are no good for it, to use your rhetoric i gave you a brief explanation of why this is, see your smaart how to thread posted in live sound. Information on how to use smaart with universal control 1. Danijel, pink noise is a random signal and has some crest factor.
When you run the room analysis wizard on the main outs for example using a 16. Presonus studiolive smaart audio and acoustic measurement. Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. I have a presonus digital console with firewirebut am afraid to try anything with that other than put pink noise through it. Presonus forums smaart on studiolive 16r from answers. Information about the usage of smaart with presonus studio live boards. Pink noise, a measurement mic and smaart system delay wizard automatically calculate and set delay. Pug the rta mic into the talkback input so there is no coloration from a fat or graphic eq unplug the main output from the board and plug it into a pink noise generator. If you click on a wizard but dont run it and then go to the output tests, the noise will work correctly. Smaart does not function on the control room monitors feeds that i am aware of. Watch how to calibrate a sound systems frequency response and timealign a pa, using the tract system calibration plugin and rational acoustics smaart. Presonus vsl with smaart provides contractors with free analysis tools june 9, 2012.
These captions can be automatically translated into any. Do series 3 boards 16 in my case have the sma rt function pink noise, etc to ring out mainsrooms. Smaart in presonus consoles is set up for use on the mains, aux sends to monitors and subgroups as those would be the outputs you would need them on. Is there any reason not to switch to this method rather than staying with the pink noise approach. I think on the question of what is correct theres likely no clear answer, and itll also depend on your method of measurement.
Studiolive series iii, studiolive ai, studiolive rm, and studiolive classic mixers and mix systems. Pink sweep is missing from the signal generator menu on both programs, smaart 5 and 6, for spectrum and frequency modes. From a practical standpoint you could measure all of the available bandwidth with white noise and balance that way, but that wouldnt account for how you hear things which i think pink noise is more useful for. The smaart room analysis wizard is not designed to work with the studiolive 16. Presonus has stated that series 3 consoles will not incorporate rational acoustics smaart. I have a template set up with pink noise, brownian noise and white noise and a. To install smaart v8 on a windows computer, download and run the windows. In many live environments, the room has not been designed to maximize the. Set the tone generator to pink noise, and trim the level so its not slamming up against 0 fig. I still have my eq settings from using pink saved in a bss soundweb file, so i can always go back to the previous eq if that is preferred. Eqing a room with swept sine vs pink noise gearslutz. Get the latest software, downloads and manuals for your presonus products. By momentarily taking over the routing and volume control of an output and patching pink noise to it.
Tuning the roomsystem the right way, the wrong way and. I have had some questions about the real time analyzer software that i run during a sunday. If you enter the smaart menu and immediately go to the output tests, no noise is generated. By momentarily taking over the routing and volume control of an output and patching pink noise to it, this.
When i use the smaart room analysis wizard, where are the eq changes stored. I appreciate someone taking the time to answer, but i already understand how to utilize the smaart wizard. Although smaart is no longer integrated with studiolive mixers, adding a pink noise generator that you can send to any output would deal a major blow to the competition. Note that these additional capabilities are not available for the studiolive. The relevant factors that differentiate sound hardwa re for smaart 6s a pplications are th e maximum sampling rate, sampling resolution bits per sample and signalto noise ratio sn. Vsl smaart features have to use a pair of firewire streams to route audio through the smaart analysis tool, and since the 16. Feature request to add in pink noise generator on sl series iii mixers. Generating what appears to be white noise 10 replies. I guess it just cant take the electrical signal very well. High quality pink noise wav mp3 audio files download. Position product name price size set descending direction. Jamie configures a basic measurement set up in smaart v.
Rational acoustics making sense of the noise smaart. Pinking a room with the new vsl using the smaart rta. Ive raised the pink noise level, raised the main fader, etc. We need noise in each channel to implement this technique. Upon first run, however, smaart begins with a simple rta graph and no.
Reverse config wont repeat, the reported delay is all over the place on repeat tests. Sound system tuning stepbystep using tract and smaart. At its core, smaart is a computer based dualchannel fft platform that we use in our work as audio engineers to view the frequency content of signals or measure the response of our electrical and electroacoustic systems, all to better make informed. Since 1995, weve built innovative tools for musicians, content creators, producers, and audio engineers. Is it possible to set up mute groups on studio live 16 series 111 when they have no user function buttons. The issue is that no pink noise is being generated through the selected or any output. Smaart welcome to the rational acoustics online store. Smaart support archive page 3 rational acoustics forums. Presonus had added smaart analysis to their virtual studio live software, which simplifies feedback reduction, signal analysis, eqing, room tuning, and more. Using three smaart system check wizards and a pink noise generator built into uc surface, studiolive aiseries and rmseries mixer users can easily view the frequencyresponse trace of a venue, calculate and set delaysystem timing, and verify output connectivity. If youre a live sound engineer or sound contractor, youre already properly awed by smaart s reputation as the gold standard in this field. In this video i show you how to route smaart v8 into a digital audio interface. Presonus studiolive smaart audio and acoustic measurement tools.
Smaart 6 makes no use of the sound hardwares synthesis capability. I had everything in good balance no clipping but it just quit working. All that said, i use the smaart wizard rm32ai which uses something called dual fft and it actually subtracts the input from the output and shows you the difference or something like that, i dont remember the exact details but i know its not just sending out pink noise and showing you what the measurement mic picks up, its more complicated. Presonus vsl with smaart provides contractors with free.
Smaart is not a single technology but an evolved collection of audiomeasurement tools and techniques for sound system analysis and optimization. Rta wont give you all the necessary information to properly calibrate your room. Controlling feedback with studiolive and smaart youtube. The big difference is not in the pink noise itself, but in how do you measure it and understand those measurements. Using three smaart system check wizards and a pinknoise generator built into. However, when we run smaart room analysis the system is not outputing pink noise. This is smaart from rational acoustics, it is a great. However, the consoles do have a rta available on all channels as for pink noise. Why cant i use the smaart wizards on my studiolive 16. The smaart output check soc wizard verifies that your system outputs are routed correctly and are passing signal. M32s have a builtin tone generator, but unfortunately for them they are stuck in 8fader banks to adjust their geqs. Smaart allows you to save snapshots of the analysis in different colours and overlay them on top of each other, this is really handy for taking multiple. Will the studiolive 32 series iii mixer have smaart functionality. To use these tools, you need to connect a measurement microphone to the studiolive mixers talkback input.
Play the pink noise through the speakers at normal level. Room eqing with rta and pink noise blue room technical. Today, presonus is a leading designer and manufacturer of both recording and live sound hardware and software solutions that solve realworld problems for real working creatives. New features include smaart wizards for the studiolive 16. Using pink noise and the builtin rta to ring out your room duration. Room eqing with rta and pink noise blue room technical forum. Why do the major studios use pink rather than swept sine. Noise needs to be recorded in a track to be affected by harmonic editing, so open up the mixers input section, and insert a tone generator effect in tracks 1 and 2. The problem with the wizard becomes that the pink noise would be going to the main outs, the analysis mic is picking this up, but the only smaart component and firewire stream it can be fed to is the main mix on ch 1516s firewire stream which is being used to route to smaart. I documented this one on the forum a few months ago.
I have doubts the audiobox could handle it as well. I then bring up pink noise in the house if i am lucky enough to have to room and time to do so, unlike festival situations and make sure i have a linear response with an inversex filter in smaart, and this ensures i have a smooth drop off. Your analysis mic, listening to the pink noise coming through. Signal generator options for pink noise and other pseudorandom shaped.
Vsls smaart implementation is accessible and intuitive, so that inexperienced users such as church volunteers and. To accomplish this, presonus has added three smaart systemcheck wizards to vsl. Welcome to the rational acoustics online store no junk. Marc nutter, vp at sonic sense shares a couple techniques for controlling stage monitor feedback using presonus studiolive and rational acoustics smaart. The 2 mics used were dayton emm6 rta microphones, with calibration files. How to route smaart v8 to any mixer using a digital io. Audiobox, quantum, studio 192, and studio series interfaces. Download the latest software for your rodecaster pro. By momentarily taking over the routing and volume control of an output and patching pink noise to it, this tool lets you quickly discover which speaker is connected where and helps you quickly get to the root of a routing problem. Here you will find a collection of some of the most useful audio gear necessary to outfit yourself with a top notch system measurement and alignment rig. Speaker to mic delay, as measured, is not affected by speaker to mic distance in normal config, 0. To find your product, start by selecting a category below or find your products name.
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